Thailand Takes a Half-Step Forward
Thai army to introduce ‘third category’ for transsexuals
BANGKOK (AFP) — Thailand’s military will stop branding transsexual conscripts as mentally disturbed, and will list them in a new “third category” as neither male nor female, a senior officer said Wednesday.
Thai men are required to report for the draft once they turn 21. Under the current system, transsexuals are rejected as suffering from “a mental disorder.”
Gay rights groups complained that the label penalises transsexuals for the rest of their lives, because men are required to prove if they have completed their national service when they apply for jobs or bank loans.
When transsexuals submit their military rejection forms declaring they have a mental disorder, they are automatically disqualified from many jobs and mortgages.
Lieutenant General Somkiat Suthivaiyakij, head of the defence ministry’s Reserve Command Department, said the military would immediately stop using the mental disorder label.
The military is trying to find a new word for a “third category” that is neither male nor female, that would not discriminate against transsexuals, he said.
Until the army decides on the new category, transsexual conscripts will be turned away with a form saying they have an illness that cannot be cured within 30 days.
“It’s a temporary measure to deal with the problem as the defence and interior ministries work on a permanent solution,” Somkiat told AFP.
To qualify for the third category, transsexuals will have to report for the draft for three years in a row to prove they are really trying to live as women, he added.
The annual draft takes place in April, and transsexuals make up less than one percent of the conscripts each year, Somkiat said.
This is good, in that these Thai women will no longer be branded as incurably mentally ill in ways that will affect them in many aspects of their lives. It’s still disturbing that they can’t be categorized as women in this regard, and are still othered as a “third category,” but that may be my cultural centrism speaking - I don’t really know.
Hopefully, more steps will follow.
Speaking of othering, though - it still makes me twitch to see people referred to as “transsexuals,” sort of like people with cancer referred to as “cancers.”
March 25, 2008 at 8:40 am
Very MTF spectrum oriented but I guess the MTF community is a lot more prominent in Thailand…
March 25, 2008 at 9:13 am
i blogged a while back about trans being seen as an illness when i saw a post on bilerico, regarding teh gays being seen as a sickness, and calling in sick to work. “hello boss? can’t come into work today. still trans.”
March 25, 2008 at 9:21 am
Nicole,
Also, the story is partially about how men are required to serve in the military as national service, and how the women in question are still required to present themselves for duty even though they’re not men. I’m not sure precisely how the legal status works in Thailand, although I recall seeing that you can’t legally change your sex on documentation. I could be mistaken.
So, yeah, the article’s going to be about women rather than men, because the women are the ones required to present themselves for military duty, be refused, and have to live with a record that says they were rejected for an incurable mental illness. Men in Thailand would not be required to present themselves for military duty due to being born female.
If it helps, I’ll probably be posting about Thomas Beattie and Robert Eads, and how men like them have trouble receiving necessary medical care in the next day or so.
March 25, 2008 at 9:28 am
Nexy: I wish. :)
March 25, 2008 at 9:31 am
Ack, sorry if the previous post seems overly explanatory and states too much of the obvious, Nicole. :(
March 25, 2008 at 9:57 am
I’m not sure how to view the third category idea, either. Still, anything that leads to the de-pathologizing of what is really just a variation within human kind.
March 25, 2008 at 11:08 am
Ugh. We have the same sort of thing in Greece. I have this bit of paper from the army that says I am relieved from duty due to a “neurotic disorder of a psychosexual type (transvestism)”
That came after two years of leave of abscence due to a “Personality disorder with transvestism- Gynecomastia, possibly because of increased estrogens.”
What it all means, basically, is I can’t get a driver’s license or be employed by the state, until I have a new birth certificate, at least.
I also remember reading somewhere that Thai transwomen often identify as a third gender, so maybe it’s actually OK with them?
March 25, 2008 at 11:13 am
Sorry, forgot. The “gynecomastia” bit was there in the first “diagnosis” because I personally insisted to be seen by a general practitioner. I was hoping he would rule I’m unfit to serve due to a physical condition, instead of a psychological one. Din’ work though, so I let it be the next time around.
I’m officially crazy, then.
March 25, 2008 at 5:09 pm
I don’t know, I’ve never heard what a Thai trans person had to say about being third gendered, or whether that’s where society puts them.
So I don’t know.
March 25, 2008 at 10:58 pm
Call me cynical, but I doubt the Thai military is doing this out of compassion for trans people.
March 25, 2008 at 11:01 pm
I honestly don’t think they are, but hopefully it means that they won’t be marked for life as “incurably mentally ill” and thus ineligible for work, loans, etc.
March 28, 2008 at 12:31 am
How far is this a matter of state institutions just sort of making up (or extending recognition to) their own local psychiatric nosologies, so that everybody’s diagnosis changes every time she gets her passport stamped? Why would there be less international uniformity in this area than in, say, the classification of cancers? (Does it have anything to do with the fact - I think it’s true - that the pop psychology sections of bookstores vary a lot more from country to country than the sorts of, say, biology books they sell?) It’s hard to have a settled attitude toward it all, to either bless it as a model of benign cultural diversity or condemn it all as just so much arbitrariness, but it’s not exactly a monument to scientific medicine.
March 29, 2008 at 9:27 pm
At least there are some sense of protection from discrimination for the transsexual sisters in Thailand. But you mentioned, would it be better to just call them women? It is not that simple. In Asia, especially in the South-East like Malaysia, Singapore and Thailand, we are treated by most people as half-halfs, or “not boy not girl”. Many of our peers still view us as boys even though we identity as girls. At the least we get acceptance on the basis that we are people that had done no harm to anyone.
March 30, 2008 at 2:49 am
Yeah, I realize that it’s not so simple. It’s really sort of the same in the US, except not as explicit in a lot of cases, and many try to characterize us as potentially or actually harmful, and sometimes malicious.
March 30, 2008 at 2:51 am
Sorry, I got sidetracked a bit.
I really do wish it were as simple as just letting us be women (or men) and not trying to impose the past on us. It’s that simple with most people, but since we have to deal with notions about who we “really” are based on birth vs. life, it’s made more complex than it really should be.
April 3, 2008 at 10:40 am
Going back to Nicole’s comment about FTMs for a moment, wouldn’t the transmen run into trouble because they couldn’t present proof of military service when applying for jobs? I suppose the question is quickly solved if they can’t change gender on their govt ID, but that still leads to a demeaning or at least awkward situation with the employer.
April 4, 2008 at 8:07 pm
Probably not, as they’re likely considered to be women in a legal sense.
And yes, it is demeaning, although perhaps not quite as demeaning as what the women have had to deal with.