Comments on: So now Trans Activists have privilege

By: Trans 101 « bird of paradox

Trans 101 « bird of paradox — Mon, 05 May 2008 09:48:54 +0000

[...] *and* I’m also a trans activist - and not in a good way. Lisa gave the post a thorough rebuttal here, and Belle’s post is also right on the money. For me, though, the whole anti-trans vitriol and [...]

By: Autumn Sandeen

Autumn Sandeen — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 06:23:33 +0000

First and second wave femininsts are the reason why I don’t love the feminist model, and why I tend to embrace the diversity model over the feminist model.

I like to think humans work best when looking for the humanity in others instead of reasons to separate ourselves from others.

By: reasonablefeminist

reasonablefeminist — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:57:09 +0000

Well said.

By: Helen G

Helen G — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 18:25:41 +0000

Hello Lisa

Just to say thank you for your point-by-point response to Polly Styrene’s comments on her own post. I was collateral damage, in a manner of speaking - albeit on a very small scale - I’m the “Heleng” (sic) that she labels as essentialist in her point 11 (and which you answered as eloquently as ever).

This despite the fact that I don’t know her from Eve; I’ve never communicated with her in any shape or form so am a little bemused at how she knows that I’m essentialist.

So I’m trans activist by implication (not sure how I feel about that) - and essentialist - and (while retracing my steps) I find I’m also a footnote in the Wikipedia entry for cisgender.

Been a busy day on Planet Helen…

Okay, must go, got a gender binary to conform to and a metric tonne of patriarchal oppression to dish out just by virtue of existing, doncha know ;)

Thanks again Lisa
Helen G

By: gallinggalla

gallinggalla — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:19:55 +0000

Yanno, I’ve not been demanding, or even asking, to be let into women’s spaces, cuz, yanno, I really don’t want to be where I’m not wanted. But, it’s funny, I keep getting invited into women’s spaces, including lesbian spaces.

I wonder why? Maybe it’s because most women understand that I’m a woman and accept me on that basis? Including my lesbian friend who also goes to MWMF?

Methinks Poly Styrene and her plastic friends are circling the wagons. I find it interesting that attendance at MWMF is going down, and the attendees are on average getting older, b/c so many young queer women reject the WBW policy. (I guess they’re just a bunch of trendy liberals, right?)

By: nexyjo

nexyjo — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:17:28 +0000

thanks for the quote - i am honored.

and the blowjob quote, along with queen emily’s comment - classic. i’ll have to remember that. i guess in bizzaro world, privilege means that i can out myself to my oppressor when a blowjob is demanded of me, so that instead, my death is demanded. and not just any death, but the kind that invloved multiple stab wounds or gunshots.

By: belledame222

belledame222 — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 11:50:02 +0000

finally skimmed through to the end. god, what a bunch of orcs. yes, dear, -now- it’s funny. hur hur hur.

doesn’t stormy have a clever insectile allegory for this? y’know, funny, wasn’t she claiming she was “silenced” by the people who mocked her for the lameness of that particular little episode? took her blog and went home, she did, and it’s OUR FAULT for sending her hits from “our sector.”

and yet, garsh, she’s STILL HERE, DAMMIT.

and the bit where Polly didn’t know from Seneca Falls was just precious. where’s fanny blood when you need her?

By: belledame222

belledame222 — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 08:14:08 +0000

Yes. Yes, that’s exactly right, you stupid mouth-breathing fuck. I’m only in this to appear “edgy and cool;” it’s not like you’re talking about you know my FRIENDS or anything.

fuckwad.

By: drakyn

drakyn — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 07:08:43 +0000

aww, here, I’ll send you thoughts of fuzzy navels, peach schnapps, and this really good drink that’s a 50/50 mix of irish cream and this hazelnut stuff (starts with an f).
I’m a lightwieght (so a bit of the peach and agulp of the fuzzy navel got me drunk), but since I metabolize it quickly, unless I keep drinking, I’ll be sober in about an hour. ;_;

By: Lisa Harney

Lisa Harney — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 07:00:09 +0000

I like the getting drunk plan, although it’s not available to me. :(